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Wednesday, December 10, 2014

#TamirRice and #JohnCrawford are dead because they were "scaring the s#*t out of everybody", including the police






Listen to the 911 caller report the #TamirRice incident, then watch Tamir Rice being shot seconds after he is confronted by the police.

Read about the 911 call that lead to police shooting #JohnCrawford to death.

It's not the so called black on black crime, it's the easy access to guns people.

Police assume everyone is exercising their second amendment right to be locked and loaded, so they shoot first and ask questions later, out of fear they won't return home to their family at the end of their shift.  Not only do they have to contend with real guns, they have to worry about toy guns that look like real guns and vice verse. It would make the job of the police much easier if they didn't have to figure out the difference between the law abiding citizens and the criminals.  It might save some lives too..

I'm just saying.....

6 comments:

Brian said...

Have you seen some of these "toy" guns? I have an airsoft M1911A1 that is licensed by Colt Firearms and is designed to look identical to a real M1911A1. Two things set the airsoft gun I have apart from a real gun, the orange barrel tip and the slide and body of my gun are made from transparent plastic. The non-transparent version with no plastic tip would take more than a quick look to identify as a "toy".

It doesn't help that most real guns are painted using a matte finish that plastic can easily replicate. And depending on the propellant used, the "toy" gun might not be required to carry an orange tip because it is a real weapon in and of itself. Most people forget that the simple BB gun was originally (and still is) a hunting weapon designed to hunt small game.

Are we going to ban "toy" guns as well?

Tamir Rice died because he reached for the gun rather than following the officers order to raise his hands. It is easy to arm-chair criticize the police for their actions. We are not the ones who might be shot and killed if we make the wrong decision. 43 police officers have been killed by criminals shooting them. Why not ask them.

Redeye said...

Tamir Rice died because he was scaring the s#$t out of everybody, including the police. He was not a criminal. He was a 12 year old child playing with a toy gun. "Are we going to ban toy guns as well" you ask? Yes. Toy guns are scaring the s#%t out of everybody, including the police.

Brian said...

Tamir Rice died because he reached down towards his waistband where his "toy" gun was rather than listening to the officer telling him to put his hands up.

Hindsight is wonderful and almost always perfect. The officer was not made aware that it might have been a toy gun. The officer did not know how old Tamir was. We know now that the officer would have been fine if he had waited. But there was no way for the officer to know that at the time.

And the problem is not the easy access to guns. Only one gun out of every thousand will be used in crime during its lifetime.

Redeye said...

There is no evidence Tamir Rice reached into his waistband.

Tamir Rice is dead because the police shot first and asked questions later.

And if easy access to guns is not the problem what is the problem?

Brian said...

In the past 20 years, the number of guns in the country have gone from 192 million in 1994 to 310 million in 2009. And yet the "firearm-related murder and non-negligent homicide" rate went from 6.6 per 100,000 in 1993 to 3.2 per 100,000 in 2011. (Numbers are from a congressional study)

We have 60% more guns in the country and yet the gun deaths are down by more than half. If easy access to guns was a problem, shouldn't we have more death by guns when there are more guns out there?

Maybe we need to look harder on the why of the homicide rather than just the how the homicide took place. What led somebody to kill somebody else instead of what somebody used to kill somebody else.

Redeye said...

You are quoting outdated statistics.

Gun deaths are not down by more than half, and even if they were that is not acceptable.

"Maybe we need to look harder on the why of the homicide rather than just the how the homicide took place. What led somebody to kill somebody else instead of what somebody used to kill somebody else."

No, we need to pass comprehensive gun control legislation. Easy access to guns are scaring the s#%t out of everybody and making police afraid they won't go home to their family at night.