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Wednesday, July 3, 2013

Paging PETA!



In this graphic video, police are recorded fatally shooting a man’s dog after the dog jumped from out of his owner’s car and began barking at police.
The owner, Leon Rosby, 52, was being arrested for recording video of police. Police were in a standoff with an alleged armed robber when Rosby, who was returning from the dog park with his rottweiler,  began recording cell phone video of the event.

Remember how PETA  (People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals) came down on Michael Vick like a cow urinating on a flat rock because he was implicated in a dog fighting ring?

I'm just saying....

22 comments:

spyz613 said...

PETA should sue Leon Rosby for this.

Redeye said...

OK, I'll bite...why should PETA sue the dog's owner for this sypz613?

spyz613 said...

He is responsible for creating this situation and allowing his dog into it. His intention was to stir up trouble. He purposefully interfered(as he already admitted to in a press conference) and knew he might get detained or arrested. If he was a responsible dog owner he would have taken his dog home first or, at the very least, made sure that it was secure in the vehicle and could not escape. This is true of any situation and second nature for any dog owner as it is done for the dog's safety. It could have just as easily jumped out and gotten hit by a passing car. Also, given the sensitive hearing of canines, the music when he was driving was way too loud for the dog to be in the car. That is animal abuse. Leon got his dog killed, not on purpose I know, but the cops were just the medium. No responsible dog owner, especially a man of 52 years, would be so careless with his pet.

spyz613 said...

Fyi, he wasn't being arrested for filming the police as you state. There were lots of people filming the police there. He was being detained for intentionally interfering with an active crime scene. Obstruction.

http://dmv.ca.gov/pubs/vctop/appndxa/penalco/penco148.htm

Redeye said...

Let me see if I have this right spyz613...is the dog's owner fault the police shot his dog for acting like a dog?

spyz613 said...

Not quite that simple, but in a nutshell, yes. That entire chain of events is the owner's fault. The cop is the only one who is allowed to decide whether or not he feels he is in danger and he made a split second call to defend himself. The dog should have never been able to enter that situation. If a baby gets into cleaning supplies because they weren't properly stored and dies from poison ingestion, do you blame the baby (dog), the poison (cop), or the parent (Rosby) who failed in maintaining a safe environment for the baby who doesn't know the difference? Caring for a dog is the same as caring for a baby. They don't know the difference so you must be the one to control their situation and keep them safe.

Redeye said...

Interesting....I'm wondering if you apply the same logic to parents who have guns in the house and the child get's hold to the gun and shoots themselves or someone, do you blame the baby or the parent(s)?

spyz613 said...

Parents of course. Same type of situation. If you are going to have a child or an animal with the mentality of a child (like a dog) it is your first priority to create and maintain a safe environment for that child or pet. To do otherwise is neglect. I myself am a gun owner and when I am not at the range, my firearm is broken down, barrel removed from the slide, and still kept under lock and key. I will never understand keeping even unloaded firearms in the house and not safely locked up.

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Redeye said...

From looking at the video the dog's owners was acting responsibly, the dog was on a leash and didn't become agitated until his owner was being arrested for recording police. IMHO, the police should have released the dog's owner and let him diffuse the situation. I'm a pet owner and I can think of nothing more horrifying than to watch them get shot for being a dog and doing what's natural and trying to protect me. But that's just me.

spyz613 said...

Dogs will always try to protect their owners. It's their nature. That's why one must be careful of the situations they create. I have owned and cared for dogs for 30 years. I can't imagine a life without any of them and I agree about how horrifying this was to watch and I am angry. The reason I find Leon was irresponsible is because he was not preventive. Everyone who has ever driven with a dog in the car knows what dogs like to do where there are open windows and the responsibility lies with him to ensure that the dog could not escape the vehicle. Even with the leash on the dog, there was no one controlling it when the dog escaped the vehicle. This is no different than not having a leash at all. As far as the cops releasing him to take control of the dog, it's agreat thought but I really don't know if there was time to do that or even if they are allowed to do that as I don't know that departments operating procedures. Cops here in my part of Maryland are not allowed to remove cuffs from people they detain until certain things have been done like ID checks, patdowns, stuff like that. For all they knew he could have been in cahoots with the armed robbers and there with the sole purpose of creating a distraction to help them escape. or he could have turned and ordered his dog to attack. They have no way of knowing what his intentions are at this point except that his intentions thus far have not been civil. They can't afford the benefit of the doubt and for good reason. It often gets them killed. These guys have what I consider to be one of the hardest jobs ever and no one ever shines light on the good things, only the bad. They have to make extremely hard decisions in extremely small amounts of time and on and ever expanding field of expertise. It's easy to armchair situations like this but a completely different thing to have to experience it. I seriously doubt the cop that shot this dog is gung-ho or happy about it. I wouldn't ever want to be but if I were ever in a situation like that and I feared injury or death I will protect myself in full even if it means taking that life. I love and am responsible for too many others to not do that.

Redeye said...

" For all they knew he could have been in cahoots with the armed robbers and there with the sole purpose of creating a distraction to help them escape. or he could have turned and ordered his dog to attack. "

Speculation based on media driven sterotypes, none of which was true and a dog is dead. Thanks for proving the dog's owner didn't create this situation.

spyz613 said...

How on earth do you get that? It isn't speculation based on stereotype, it is the unknown factor. These cops didn't know the guy or why he was doing what he was doing. they asked him to comply with their situation which they must do, he refused, they detained to investigate. It's easy to put yourself in Rosby's shoes as a dog owner but hard to to put yourself in the cop's shoes having never been in his situation. To blame them for this and not the owner is to simply react out of passion instead of using logic.

spyz613 said...

lol. Applying your logic to your parent/child/gun situation, the gun purchaesd itself, jumped into the child's hand and fired it's own trigger.

spyz613 said...

Maybe another vantage point will help you understand.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3FHdSxYAQE

Redeye said...

I understand perfectly. Blacks are guilty until proven not so guilty in America, but I don't expect you to understand.

spyz613 said...
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Redeye said...

The above comment was deleted because name calling is not allowed in this sandbox. Tolerant people can agree to disagree without being disagreeable.

spyz613 said...
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Redeye said...

Previous comment deleted for same reason as previous deletion. Name calling is not allowed in this sandbox.

spyz613 said...

Seriously? I didn't call you any names. You have got to be kidding me. Is this how you end an argument, by letting people assume your opponent resorted to name calling? Good thing I do screen captures.