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Wednesday, June 1, 2011

We can't win for the media and the ConservaDems

It's easier for the mainstream media to *ahem* talk about Sarah Palin, Chris Christie, Anthony Weiner and Breitbarts latest hoax than it is to talk about the Sad Day in the House of Representatives on the debt ceiling vote to set up a trap for President Obama and the democrats.

House Republicans will hold a symbolic vote next week to pressure Democrats into accepting deep spending cuts in exchange for lifting the $14.3 trillion debt limit.

The move, announced Tuesday in a closed-door conference meeting, is designed to show President Obama and Senate Democrats that Congress will not unconditionally grant the government more borrowing authority.


So now that we know it's a trap to force "deep spending cuts" for the middle class what are WE going to do about it?
Republican aides dismissed concerns — raised by some Democrats — that a failed House vote would rattle the financial markets, much like the failure of the initial Wall Street bailout package in 2008 sent the Dow crashing by more than 700 points. The GOP circulated a fact sheet listing nine examples of clean debt-limit votes that have failed in the House or Senate since 1975.


Tarheel Dem explains what it means.

Until Wall Street is clear that the Republicans really would refuse to raise the debt limit, the Republicans can continue to play their kabuki to try to force Democrats to vote against their key programs - Social Security and Medicare. Who causes the other to blink wins the narrative. Republicans are already arguing that Democrats have already cut Medicare (the same BS that won the GOP the House last year). But that argument after the Ryan budget has less traction.
There is one huge hot sweaty debate coming right before the August recess. (That's assuming that the administration has not made savings that kick the can down the road.) Faced with the debt ceiling being reached while they are home talking with voters and getting their local organizations lined up for next year's campaign, what will Republicans do? As usual, the disunity in the Democratic House caucus (thanks, Heath) is a problem.

The GOP media machine is getting more shrill, a clear indication they are getting worried that the extortion might not work and the hostage might escape.


I HOPE President Obama doesn't capitulate I mean compromise again. The way to deal with Bully's is to stand up to them.

What it means to me...the DEMS had no plan on how to handle this vote. They should have hung together and voted FOR the debt limit increase because it's the right thing to do and what needs to be done. Forget the 30 sec ads; it won't matter in the large scheme of things and that's what DEMS don't get.
They needed to hang together and make a statement; if they couldn't on a yes vote they should have all voted no in protest to the rules and had that be the message; either way it's stupid the way it shook out and took the focus off Medicare which is where it needs to be.

This was a mess all around and the White House should have been focused in on this and working to pull together a plan with house democrats.

Then again, they seem to be focused on a Biden track for a solution and ignoring the House.



I tried to tell them, but did they listen to me? Nope.
Frankly, I don't see how one can be both Conservative and a Democrat. Democrats are pro choice. Conservatives are pro life as long as it's in the womb. Democrats are pro equal rights and civil rights. Democrats are pro labor and pro union, Conservatives are pro-prayer in school and pro "traditional family". Conservatives favorite Congressmen are Jim Marshall and Jim Taylor, Democrats favorite Congressmen are John Lewis, Robert Wexler and Dennis Kuchinich.


Our problem is that the Democratic Party keeps nominating conservatives.

We're in a class war, and conservatism itself is our enemy.
H/T revbob

9 comments:

FED UP said...

Obama is the Food Stamp King.

SUPPLEMENTAL NUTRITION ASSISTANCE PROGRAM
(Data as of May 27, 2011)
Fiscal PARTICIPATION BENEFIT AVERAGE MONTHLY BENEFIT
Year Persons Households COSTS Per Person Per Household
ANNUAL SUMMARY
FY 2010 40,301,666 18,618,363 64,704,559,245 133.79 289.61
FY 2009 33,489,975 15,232,115 50,359,917,015 125.31 275.51
FY 2008 28,222,630 12,727,450 34,608,397,238 102.19 226.60

As you can see from the data above. Since 2008, Food Stamp usage has exploded by about 43%. The average amount of money given to each food stamp user has exploded as well.

http://www.fns.usda.gov/pd/34SNAPmonthly.htm

Redeye said...

It's not President Obama's fault more Americans, black, brown, red, yellow and white are on Food Stamps. You can thank your republican pals for that. They are the ones who raided the surplus to give the rich a tax cut, borrowed and spent for all war all the time and shipped all the manufacturing and high tech jobs over seas.

Bush and Dick were big government kingpins. They created the largest government in the history of the United States of America.

Rebel Flower said...

Food stamp and other so called welfare entitlement usage doesn't even make up 1% of the budget or the debt. Try again fedup.

Anonymous said...

Conservatives are pro life as long as it's in the womb. Conservatives are pro-prayer in school and pro "traditional family".

What is wrong with that? If you are referring to the death penalty it should take place more often for those on death row who refuse to be civil!! Prayer is one thing our country was founded on. Why take prayer out of the school? Take the flag out of the school if you take prayer out! We cater to much to the person who cry's the loudest, what about the people who like prayer in schools traditional families etc

Rebel Flower said...

You are off base AGAIN...

The death penalty does not deter crime, so why have it? We know that people in prison are not civil, that's why they are there. You are kind of stating the obvious... It's nothing more than state sanctioned vengeance. "vengenace is mine saith the lord." Throw that scripture out, I suppose along with helping the poor and the sick, right? As long as we have our moment of silence in the morning.

The reason we don't have prayer in school or in any public place, is that it's unconstitutional. What religion should dominate the prayer service? Everyone isn't christian. Should their be seperate prayers? Again, it's unconstitutional and you would be intruding on someone's belief. Since conservatives love the constitution so much. Our country was NOT founded on prayer or christianity. That is a myth that your pastors tell you in your church, but it's not true or based on historical fact. The founding father's were deists and Jefferson wrote his own Bible, not christians, please stop believing Beck. They thought the notion of Christianity was ridiculous which is why there is no mention of...wait for it...JESUS...anywhere in any of the founding documents, but slavery is...

What I find most interesting is we worry so much about the child in the womb, especially in these family values, traditional states, but we have the highest murder rates. Looks like we need to be concerned about the people out of the womb.

Anonymous said...

What I find most interesting is we worry so much about the child in the womb, especially in these family values, traditional states, but we have the highest murder rates. Looks like we need to be concerned about the people out of the womb.

wow, Who has the highest murder rate? BLACKS!!
young blacks are almost 12 times more likely to be arrested for murder than young whites.

Redeye said...

Question for Anonymous/FEDUP..did you attend public or private schools? If so did you graduate? If you graduated did you attend college/University? If so what did you study and did you graduate? Was it a public or private college/University?

FED UP said...

Public high school . Yes. I went to college and graduated. What I studied does not matter! It was not English or typing! What about you?

Redeye said...

I was just wondering.